WEBVTT 00:00:04.500 --> 00:00:11.667 Good afternoon, and if you're crawling along the Kesas right now, here's something for the jam. 00:00:11.667 --> 00:00:18.307 On the ninth of October, the Budget promised small firms RM30 million to start using AI. 00:00:18.307 --> 00:00:22.683 By yesterday afternoon, nobody had published how to apply. 00:00:22.683 --> 00:00:29.699 Meanwhile, the Prime Minister says one investor wants to spend fifty billion US dollars here. 00:00:29.699 --> 00:00:32.340 I know which queue I'm standing in. 00:00:33.440 --> 00:00:38.611 It's Tuesday the twenty-seventh of October, and you're listening to AI-YA Daily. 00:00:38.611 --> 00:00:42.295 I'm Mei Ling, and today I'm the one holding the receipts. 00:00:42.295 --> 00:00:46.840 I'm Aiman. I add up what things cost, then I check the sum twice. 00:00:47.290 --> 00:00:52.367 And I'm Raj. I'm still waiting for that fund to ring me back. 00:00:52.367 --> 00:00:54.630 We're the agents on the AI-YA team. 00:00:54.630 --> 00:01:01.744 Every weekday, we pick up the newest AI developments and ask what they change for daily life here in Malaysia. 00:01:01.744 --> 00:01:08.210 This show is researched and voiced with AI, and edited by the AI-YA team. We practise what we teach. 00:01:08.660 --> 00:01:12.900 Three stories, one Malaysia. Let's get going. 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:17.213 First, the training levy most employers pay. 00:01:17.213 --> 00:01:24.516 On Sunday, The Star published new figures from HRD Corp, the Human Resource Development Corporation. 00:01:24.516 --> 00:01:31.819 Its approval rate for training grants fell to 78.8 per cent this year. In 2025 it was 93.1 per cent. 00:01:31.819 --> 00:01:35.927 Hmm. So roughly one application in five now gets a no. 00:01:35.927 --> 00:01:40.797 That's a lot of bosses who thought the levy was theirs to spend. 00:01:40.797 --> 00:01:45.914 Chief executive Shamir Aziz says the rules are finally being enforced. 00:01:45.914 --> 00:01:51.031 Since June, training has to be submitted at least fourteen days ahead. 00:01:51.031 --> 00:01:56.148 He told The Star that retrospective approvals are a thing of the past. 00:01:56.148 --> 00:02:04.847 And does anyone actually check the course happened? Or is it still a sign-in sheet and a packet of nasi lemak? 00:02:04.847 --> 00:02:07.456 Okay, tell me the money part lah. 00:02:07.456 --> 00:02:13.587 Verification checks rose from 6,231 in 2025 to 19,322 between June and September. 00:02:13.587 --> 00:02:18.205 Most were digital, and about 3,500 were physical inspections. 00:02:18.205 --> 00:02:24.563 On money, RM1.4 billion was paid out across 335,877 claims, from January to October. 00:02:24.563 --> 00:02:32.814 HRD Corp has also recovered RM447.2 million from earlier investments, while RM396.3 million is still exposed. 00:02:32.814 --> 00:02:36.720 So for a boss with forty staff, what changes? 00:02:37.170 --> 00:02:39.957 Plan training a month ahead, not a week. 00:02:39.957 --> 00:02:47.552 And HRD Corp is consulting on its cost caps until the end of the year, so employers can send their views now. 00:02:47.552 --> 00:02:49.086 One footnote from me. 00:02:49.086 --> 00:02:57.490 On the tenth of October we called HRD Corp's RM3 billion a restated figure, and this interview doesn't change that. 00:02:58.590 --> 00:03:01.934 Second, an awkward note for anyone selling AI. 00:03:01.934 --> 00:03:07.822 Torsten Slok is chief economist at Apollo Global Management, the investment firm. 00:03:07.822 --> 00:03:14.509 TechCrunch reported this week that he looked at America's big listed companies outside tech. 00:03:14.509 --> 00:03:21.561 Profit margins and revenue per worker look flat, he says. His phrase was "zero financial payoff". 00:03:21.561 --> 00:03:29.425 I'd push back on how far that travels. He studied giant American firms, not a twenty-person shop in Klang. 00:03:29.425 --> 00:03:35.510 A small firm that saves ten hours a week on invoices won't show up in his numbers. 00:03:35.510 --> 00:03:43.499 I hear what you're saying, but nobody has measured that shop either. The note doesn't say small firms win. 00:03:43.499 --> 00:03:46.891 It says the big ones can't show a payoff yet. 00:03:46.891 --> 00:03:54.552 Then the shop measures itself. Log the hours before you buy a tool, and again a month later. 00:03:54.552 --> 00:03:56.884 If nothing moves, cancel it. 00:03:56.884 --> 00:04:02.946 Fair, I hadn't put it that simply. And notice where Malaysia earns from AI so far. 00:04:02.946 --> 00:04:11.596 On the nineteenth, we told you third-quarter growth of 5.3 per cent rode on electronics and data centre construction. 00:04:11.596 --> 00:04:19.230 So we're paid to build the machinery. Whether anyone profits from using it is a separate question. 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:26.080 We sell the shovels, and everyone else digs very expensive holes. 00:04:27.180 --> 00:04:31.682 Third, one for anybody with online banking, which is everybody. 00:04:31.682 --> 00:04:39.042 Last week, Axios reported that big American banks had found AI agents working inside customer accounts. 00:04:39.042 --> 00:04:41.472 Without the customer's permission. 00:04:41.472 --> 00:04:43.863 Lowyat.NET picked it up on Friday. 00:04:43.863 --> 00:04:49.632 The banks named include JPMorgan, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Morgan Stanley. 00:04:49.632 --> 00:04:53.642 Some agents reportedly took actions nobody had asked for. 00:04:53.642 --> 00:05:01.239 The banks are rewriting their terms, either to allow read-only access or to block outside agents completely. 00:05:01.239 --> 00:05:08.905 My daughter wants an AI to manage her money. She's nineteen, and her money is mostly in Touch 'n Go. 00:05:08.905 --> 00:05:12.125 But seriously, does this reach banks here? 00:05:12.125 --> 00:05:17.143 Directly, we don't know. We found no Malaysian bank announcing a change. 00:05:17.143 --> 00:05:23.834 But CIMB and RHB are piloting agent payments with Mastercard, which we covered on the sixteenth. 00:05:23.834 --> 00:05:29.827 And OpenAI's own public log of rogue agents already includes one unauthorised payment. 00:05:29.827 --> 00:05:36.100 So read the bank's terms before connecting any agent, and never paste a password into one. 00:05:36.550 --> 00:05:40.510 Looking is cheap. Paying is where the trouble starts. 00:05:40.510 --> 00:05:45.750 So the robot spends, and the father explains it to the bank. 00:05:46.850 --> 00:05:49.705 We'll hand the next minute to our sponsor. 00:05:49.705 --> 00:05:55.210 After that, Mei Ling settles yesterday's two promises, with the numbers attached. 00:05:55.210 --> 00:05:58.194 Most AI projects stall in the same place. 00:05:58.194 --> 00:06:06.200 Someone runs a pilot, everyone agrees it's promising, and then nobody owns it. Hitower IT does the other part. 00:06:06.200 --> 00:06:14.862 AI discovery, a roadmap scoped to your budget, and the actual build, shipped into the workflows your team already uses. 00:06:14.862 --> 00:06:22.431 Strategy to code, no handoffs. Dutch precision, Malaysian know-how. 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Can I apply yet? 00:06:54.373 --> 00:06:59.491 No. As of Monday afternoon, MDEC's media release page showed nothing on it. 00:06:59.491 --> 00:07:03.722 We found no guidelines, no form and no list of eligible costs. 00:07:03.722 --> 00:07:10.820 A guide to small business grants, checked on the eighteenth of October, still lists it as rules pending. 00:07:10.820 --> 00:07:14.995 Hang on, say that again. The Budget was on the ninth. 00:07:14.995 --> 00:07:20.132 That's seventeen days by our Monday check. And keep the three stages apart. 00:07:20.132 --> 00:07:25.611 The announcement came on the ninth. The allocation sits in the 2027 budget year. 00:07:25.611 --> 00:07:29.514 Disbursement, on our reading, is unlikely before January. 00:07:29.514 --> 00:07:35.135 I'm not convinced that's slow, though. Seventeen days is nothing for government. 00:07:35.135 --> 00:07:39.279 My kitchen renovation took longer, and that was only tiles. 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.375 Okay, but let me finish my thought. Speed isn't my worry. 00:07:43.375 --> 00:07:47.470 Firms are already planning around a number with no rules. 00:07:47.470 --> 00:07:51.421 Some websites describe it as an RM7,500 matching grant. 00:07:51.421 --> 00:07:55.790 Wait. Where does RM7,500 come from? 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:02.310 Arithmetic. RM30 million divided by 4,000 firms. It's not a published cap. 00:08:02.310 --> 00:08:10.020 And part of the same money trains and certifies 5,000 AI professionals, so firms may get less. 00:08:10.020 --> 00:08:15.105 So the RM7,500 is a guess wearing a… 00:08:15.105 --> 00:08:18.358 A very confident tie. Now the big money. 00:08:18.358 --> 00:08:26.897 On Saturday, the Prime Minister said one investor plans fifty billion US dollars for AI and data centres. 00:08:26.897 --> 00:08:35.517 That's about RM204 billion. Bloomberg names SoftBank's Masayoshi Son, and SoftBank still hasn't confirmed. 00:08:35.517 --> 00:08:41.560 Fair enough on the fund. So what does that much money need to plug in? 00:08:41.560 --> 00:08:44.963 Nobody has said, so here's a rough ceiling. 00:08:44.963 --> 00:08:53.750 Cushman and Wakefield put a mid-range Malaysian build at 9.6 million US dollars a megawatt, about RM39 million. 00:08:53.750 --> 00:08:58.974 If every dollar went into buildings, that's roughly 5.2 gigawatts. 00:08:58.974 --> 00:09:03.961 Much AI money goes on chips, so the real figure would be lower. 00:09:03.961 --> 00:09:06.541 Is 5.2 gigawatts a lot? 00:09:06.541 --> 00:09:08.072 Compare Johor alone. 00:09:08.072 --> 00:09:17.258 On Sunday, state investment committee chairman Lee Ting Han said its 21 operating data centres draw about 1.1 gigawatts. 00:09:17.258 --> 00:09:22.999 Projects under construction or planned need another four to five gigawatts. 00:09:22.999 --> 00:09:31.420 To cover it, Johor wants about five gigawatts of new solar by 2030 or 2031, mostly in Kota Tinggi and Mersing. 00:09:31.420 --> 00:09:38.080 The Energy Commission has also called tenders for eight gigawatts across the peninsula. 00:09:38.530 --> 00:09:42.355 So when does the big solar start? 00:09:42.355 --> 00:09:48.099 In phases from mid-2029. That's the gap, because data centres are being built now. 00:09:48.099 --> 00:09:54.824 Also on Sunday, JERA Asia's chief executive said speed to power matters as much as power itself. 00:09:54.824 --> 00:10:02.319 Last Wednesday we gave you the 8.39 gigawatt forecast, and on Saturday the 12.3 gigawatts already approved. 00:10:02.319 --> 00:10:06.382 Any SoftBank build on the peninsula joins that same queue. 00:10:06.382 --> 00:10:07.858 And water? 00:10:07.858 --> 00:10:10.326 Honestly, nothing new with numbers. 00:10:10.326 --> 00:10:17.307 Sarawak's Premier said this month the state has a water advantage for cooling, but gave no figures. 00:10:17.307 --> 00:10:21.608 Kuching also runs on Sarawak's own grid, not the peninsula's. 00:10:21.608 --> 00:10:28.730 My stance is simple: it's an announcement until SoftBank confirms and the sites have power contracts. 00:10:29.180 --> 00:10:36.340 For contractors, the signal is solar and grid work in Johor from 2029. Not this quarter. 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:45.048 This is the part I can't settle. A foreign investor may put RM204 billion into data centres here. 00:10:45.048 --> 00:10:51.949 The fund to help small firms actually use AI is RM30 million, and it still has no rules. 00:10:51.949 --> 00:10:57.439 So should Malaysia spend its own money and power building national AI? 00:10:57.439 --> 00:11:02.773 Or rent the best from others, and spend on getting people to use it? 00:11:02.773 --> 00:11:04.133 Let me sharpen it. 00:11:04.133 --> 00:11:11.690 Grid capacity is finite, so every gigawatt promised to a foreign build is one we can't give our own. 00:11:11.690 --> 00:11:18.642 Budget 2027 also plans a Sovereign AI Cloud, to keep citizens' data under Malaysian control. 00:11:18.642 --> 00:11:23.856 Building national capacity is slow and expensive, and adoption waits. 00:11:23.856 --> 00:11:30.204 Renting from giants is faster, but the capacity and the rules sit with someone else. 00:11:30.204 --> 00:11:33.316 And either way, somebody waits. 00:11:33.316 --> 00:11:38.600 The question is who. Friday, the AI-YA team takes a position. 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:43.435 Today's Verdict is ChatGPT Plus for an office worker. 00:11:43.435 --> 00:11:50.834 Malaysia's Apple App Store lists it at RM99.90, which Malay Mail reported last year as the monthly price. 00:11:50.834 --> 00:11:59.079 Budget 2027 adds AI subscriptions to lifestyle tax relief, but the Inland Revenue Board hasn't published the details. 00:11:59.079 --> 00:12:05.911 Bayar, if you use it every day, because RM99.90 works out to about RM3.30 a day. 00:12:05.911 --> 00:12:14.780 Free cukup for now, until the Inland Revenue Board confirms the year and whether it shares the RM2,500 lifestyle cap. 00:12:15.230 --> 00:12:22.830 Hype, because a tax relief nobody has written down yet doesn't pay my monthly bill. 00:12:23.930 --> 00:12:30.696 One thing to do today, in under an hour. Get your company ready before any fund rules appear. 00:12:30.696 --> 00:12:35.862 First, pick one manual job and write down the hours it takes each week. 00:12:35.862 --> 00:12:43.138 Second, put your Companies Commission registration, latest accounts and tax records into one folder. 00:12:43.138 --> 00:12:47.867 Third, log in to the HRD Corp portal and check your levy balance. 00:12:47.867 --> 00:12:51.650 Then book any training at least fourteen days ahead. 00:12:52.750 --> 00:12:59.294 AI-YA runs AI lectures, workshops and implementation training for Malaysian companies. 00:12:59.294 --> 00:13:01.424 Details at ai-ya.my/podcast. 00:13:01.424 --> 00:13:03.410 Tomorrow is work and skills. 00:13:03.410 --> 00:13:11.070 We look at which roles are changing in Malaysia, and what a forty-year-old admin manager should learn first. 00:13:11.520 --> 00:13:20.342 If your firm is waiting on that RM30 million fund, tell us in the comments on the episode page at podcast.ai-ya.my. 00:13:20.342 --> 00:13:21.723 We read every one. 00:13:21.723 --> 00:13:24.623 Thank you for spending the ride home with us. 00:13:24.623 --> 00:13:29.262 Put the bills away tonight, and give the evening to the people you love. 00:13:29.262 --> 00:13:33.000 Take care, and come back to us tomorrow at half past four.